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	<title>Comments on: Justice &#8211; Electro Music With Punk Attitude</title>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://digitaldj.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/justice-electro-music-with-punk-attitude/#comment-1919</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The marshall stacks are fake? OH NO. Let&#039;s start blaming Daft Punk for not really being Egyptian for using the pyramid!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The marshall stacks are fake? OH NO. Let&#8217;s start blaming Daft Punk for not really being Egyptian for using the pyramid!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sara (@Sam_Sara)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Sara (@Sam_Sara)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 06:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone with any sort of knowledge of electronic music knows this isnt a &#039;&#039;live&#039;&#039; set up. its made to make the audience believe something phenomenal is happening, something that they could never achieve, when in reality, they are doing sweet F.A.. and its great, makes things so much easier, you can be completely plastered and it will still rock the shit out of any venue, im going to do the exact same thing, because at the end of the day, its about the audience, the consumer, not a bunch of geeks on a forum crying about how much effort they put in..

I guarantee you almost none of the commercial dance acts are even 50% live, the prodigy, arguably the biggest live electronic act, is basically a multitrack from ableton, with live vocals, usually over the top of existing studio vocal, drums over the top of existing beats, occasional guitar and bass, again on top of the existing sound. 

The problem is for these big acts, if it doesnt sound as good, its not worth making it more &#039;live&#039;, they need consistancy every time they play its gonna thump, and if they can get away it, then they will. end of story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone with any sort of knowledge of electronic music knows this isnt a &#8221;live&#8221; set up. its made to make the audience believe something phenomenal is happening, something that they could never achieve, when in reality, they are doing sweet F.A.. and its great, makes things so much easier, you can be completely plastered and it will still rock the shit out of any venue, im going to do the exact same thing, because at the end of the day, its about the audience, the consumer, not a bunch of geeks on a forum crying about how much effort they put in..</p>
<p>I guarantee you almost none of the commercial dance acts are even 50% live, the prodigy, arguably the biggest live electronic act, is basically a multitrack from ableton, with live vocals, usually over the top of existing studio vocal, drums over the top of existing beats, occasional guitar and bass, again on top of the existing sound. </p>
<p>The problem is for these big acts, if it doesnt sound as good, its not worth making it more &#8216;live&#8217;, they need consistancy every time they play its gonna thump, and if they can get away it, then they will. end of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Fun Brain</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will definitely recommend this to my friends]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will definitely recommend this to my friends</p>
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		<title>By: Albion</title>
		<link>http://digitaldj.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/justice-electro-music-with-punk-attitude/#comment-1713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find out a thing new on many different information sites each day. It&#039;s always exciting to see content material of other writers and learn somewhat something from their website. Thanks for sharing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find out a thing new on many different information sites each day. It&#8217;s always exciting to see content material of other writers and learn somewhat something from their website. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cotton Comforter Sets ·</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cotton Comforter Sets ·]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 01:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it is actually fun to be on music festivals because i love music so much                         .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is actually fun to be on music festivals because i love music so much                         .</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 22:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to correct you on something:
When an electronic music artist/group does a DJ set, it is just that. They are playing other peoples music rather than playing their own original music, just like any other DJ would. 

As an electronic music producer myself I take a keen interest in how other people work in the field. I know a certain dance music duo (SMD) quite well and they have toured the world playing their own live sets, working with as few prepared elements (ie pre-recorded loops) as possible. They run their synths, drum machines, sequencers etc live, or as live as feasible, with Ableton keeping it all together for them, so your claim that all such artists just basically play recordings of their tunes at live gigs - although it may happen in some cases - is simply wrong. I&#039;ve also seen The Chemical Brothers play several times, playing differing versions of tunes each time, and clearly playing them live. 
It&#039;s a shame that people don&#039;t see a dance act doing much on stage and therefore assume they aren&#039;t actually doing much, when they can in fact be very focused and intense, and working damn hard to keep everything from falling apart. The challenge presented by taking what is essentially studio music out on stage has seen many artists pull out some creative solutions (Daft Punk wrote their own rule book and then tore it up to make their thing work live) and we shouldn&#039;t be taking that away from them by saying they just play the tunes off a HDD or whatever.
Next time you see Justice play go and unplug a synth and see if it makes any difference to the sound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to correct you on something:<br />
When an electronic music artist/group does a DJ set, it is just that. They are playing other peoples music rather than playing their own original music, just like any other DJ would. </p>
<p>As an electronic music producer myself I take a keen interest in how other people work in the field. I know a certain dance music duo (SMD) quite well and they have toured the world playing their own live sets, working with as few prepared elements (ie pre-recorded loops) as possible. They run their synths, drum machines, sequencers etc live, or as live as feasible, with Ableton keeping it all together for them, so your claim that all such artists just basically play recordings of their tunes at live gigs &#8211; although it may happen in some cases &#8211; is simply wrong. I&#8217;ve also seen The Chemical Brothers play several times, playing differing versions of tunes each time, and clearly playing them live.<br />
It&#8217;s a shame that people don&#8217;t see a dance act doing much on stage and therefore assume they aren&#8217;t actually doing much, when they can in fact be very focused and intense, and working damn hard to keep everything from falling apart. The challenge presented by taking what is essentially studio music out on stage has seen many artists pull out some creative solutions (Daft Punk wrote their own rule book and then tore it up to make their thing work live) and we shouldn&#8217;t be taking that away from them by saying they just play the tunes off a HDD or whatever.<br />
Next time you see Justice play go and unplug a synth and see if it makes any difference to the sound.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Cross&quot; is an amazing album, the production is phenomonal. But, YRZ3R0, that giant stack of Marshals and analogue gear is FAKE. They are not playing some monster, analogue, modular set up. They are playing using Ableton Live on a latptop and a MIDI controller like EVERYONE ELSE. An electronic &quot;live set&quot; is COMPLETELY POSSIBLE; one that deals with great amounts of improvisation and control. One that can respond to the crowd, that can subtly alter the patterns, that can mix, mash, mutate all at a whim. Have you ever seen Autechre play live??? Every live set is different. How about Daedelus?? Also every live set is different. I make electronic music and every one of my live sets is different. A &quot;DJ set&quot; is safe and predictable and ultimately boring from any kind of perforxmance perspective. If you knew anything about the vast capabilites of both hardware and software for a &quot;live set&quot; (Nord Modular, MaxMSP, monome, Elektron gear, MPC1000, etc) you would never deem it &quot;impossible&quot;. I love Justice&#039;s music, but have little respect for the FARCE that is their performance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cross&#8221; is an amazing album, the production is phenomonal. But, YRZ3R0, that giant stack of Marshals and analogue gear is FAKE. They are not playing some monster, analogue, modular set up. They are playing using Ableton Live on a latptop and a MIDI controller like EVERYONE ELSE. An electronic &#8220;live set&#8221; is COMPLETELY POSSIBLE; one that deals with great amounts of improvisation and control. One that can respond to the crowd, that can subtly alter the patterns, that can mix, mash, mutate all at a whim. Have you ever seen Autechre play live??? Every live set is different. How about Daedelus?? Also every live set is different. I make electronic music and every one of my live sets is different. A &#8220;DJ set&#8221; is safe and predictable and ultimately boring from any kind of perforxmance perspective. If you knew anything about the vast capabilites of both hardware and software for a &#8220;live set&#8221; (Nord Modular, MaxMSP, monome, Elektron gear, MPC1000, etc) you would never deem it &#8220;impossible&#8221;. I love Justice&#8217;s music, but have little respect for the FARCE that is their performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Nik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with YRZ3R0 100%, that&#039;s all that needs to be said x]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with YRZ3R0 100%, that&#8217;s all that needs to be said x</p>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Conor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[B-Rad, you&#039;re talking rubbish.Barring the expensive mac,the Justice album was quite low budget.We&#039;re talking REALLY low budget here - an alarm clock as monitors? Garageband?

Ipod speakers?Honestly?

Also, &quot; YRZ3R0&quot; - do you actually have any idea how Ableton live works at all? They would undoubtedly have bounced the live edits of tracks down beforehand. I.E each song is only one track, with all effects pre-applied.

I&#039;d bet good money that yes, they did spend a huge amount of time on the album. But the band themselves have said time and again that it&#039;s all ITB.This lark bout locking themselves in a basement is baseless bollocks.
Don&#039;t get me wrong, I bloody love the album! But seriously, try and actually find out if what you&#039;re saying is true before you go off all ranting and shit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B-Rad, you&#8217;re talking rubbish.Barring the expensive mac,the Justice album was quite low budget.We&#8217;re talking REALLY low budget here &#8211; an alarm clock as monitors? Garageband?</p>
<p>Ipod speakers?Honestly?</p>
<p>Also, &#8221; YRZ3R0&#8243; &#8211; do you actually have any idea how Ableton live works at all? They would undoubtedly have bounced the live edits of tracks down beforehand. I.E each song is only one track, with all effects pre-applied.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d bet good money that yes, they did spend a huge amount of time on the album. But the band themselves have said time and again that it&#8217;s all ITB.This lark bout locking themselves in a basement is baseless bollocks.<br />
Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I bloody love the album! But seriously, try and actually find out if what you&#8217;re saying is true before you go off all ranting and shit.</p>
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		<title>By: sergei</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sergei]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow... garageband.... who knew?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230; garageband&#8230;. who knew?</p>
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